When I give Lynda a deadline for an assignment, there is
always the opportunity for her to renegotiate the time table if something delays her. But she hasn’t really learned to
take advantage of it.
I can’t count the times we’ve had this conversation while
she’s over my knee:
“You know, (smack smack). If you had called me earlier
(smack), perhaps we could have adjusted your schedule (smack), and you could
have avoided this (smack, smack).
“But I did call you. Ow!”
“Catching me at the office just before your deadline is not
what I mean (smack smack)”
Then she always says this to me: “It’s just that I feel
silly calling and asking you… ow.”
“How do you feel now?” I ask as I smack away.
And there’s no answer.
Well okay, there’s one answer she often offers: “I just
figure you’ll tell me you still expect me to get it done. So
why bother?”
That could well be the case. But I also know that things can get more complicated than we anticipated, and I’m
prepared to make adjustments for her. Even if she is right about my
insisting that she ought to still be able to finish the task, wouldn’t it be
worth a phone call to see if I’m flexible, especially after I’ve said, “call me
if you hit a snag.”?
This feeling silly issue is interesting to me. Many readers
wrote in the last entry that, like Lynda, they feel silly calling their
husbands “sir.” As I wrote before, I can accept it, but I don’t understand. If
calling me “sir” makes her feel silly, how does being upended and paddled make
her feel?
Again, I don’t have to understand. Sometimes it is enough to accept. But it makes me scratch my head, and I admit it makes me smile in amusement—but don’t tell Lynda, it might make her feel silly.
(heheheh) I quietly giggle. Not at Lynda. But at myself for all the times I've looked silly. BWAHAHWHAHWA ooops I couldn't help it. I'm sure I am quite hilarious. I don't know how Dev keeps a straight face some times... and sometimes he admits he doesn't know how he does.
ReplyDeleteI imagine it is hard for an adult woman to call and ask permission. I know it would be for me so I can understand how Lynda might feel silly. I am not in a DD marriage so I may be in the minority.
ReplyDeleteWe don't have deadlines and stuff but there are plenty of expectations and yeah, it feels really silly to ask for a renegotiation. It's actually very hard to do, even when you guys are acting reasonable (lol, those rare moments). Being upended and swatted feels even sillier but I think it's pride that keeps me from asking in the first place. You are quite right, it doesn't make much sense. I'll have to ask M if he smiles in amusement as well.
ReplyDeleteWe just had a similar conversation, luckily I wasn't over his knee but had been earlier. It is one of the hardest things for me to do is ask for permission. I have done things my way for many years and I am an adult woman. I did agree to do DD but that doesn't make it any easier and yes I do get in trouble for not asking or letting my husband know if I cannot finish a task and get an okay from him. Why this is more embarrasing then going over his knee is a mystery to me.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she does not like calling you at work.And there is something to be said for that.I feel I may catch Peter at the wrong moment or in the wrong mood/mindset.We text/e mail to give each other space and an opportunity to reply thoughtfully.It somehow makes it more special and connected.Even in the crazy rush of life.Oh boy and can I understand procrastination....I have got a pile of files by my desk that I call my 'fish files'...the longer I leave them the smellier they become ....I should be sorting them out right NOW ! Sarah,LD,UK
ReplyDeleteTo be honest with you, there are times when this whole ttwd seems silly to me. It's something I've struggled with at times. But, as we move forward I feel that way less often. As others have already said, asking for permission is hard. I mean really, I'm a grown woman, perfectly capable of making decisions for myself. So, why should I have to ask permission anyway? Yeah...well...the reality is that things just don't work that way anymore. And while I recognize that it's a good thing, that doesn't necessarily make it easy to do.
ReplyDeletePooky, you certainly sound hilarious to me.
ReplyDeletesunnygirl, suzie, blondie, and Grace, you have all said similarly that it's embarrassing to call and ask permission. My thought is that at work, I am constantly negotiating deadlines with those I supervise and the ones I answer to. It doesn't have to be degrading. It's just taking care of business.
Sarah, however you communicate effectively sounds great to me.
Oh I get it! Calling and asking permission, asking for leniency, negotiating an adjustment is admitting out loud that she's needs it, that you have control over her mundane tasks. The fact that she has to ask embarrases her...and that makes her feel vulnerable...the saying it out-loud part. Apparently she'd rather take the spanking than have to say it out loud. Sara
ReplyDelete...and because no one on the outside, overhearing you talk to your boss or people you supervise would think there was a childish aspect to them
ReplyDeleteneeding to confer with you. This is different. Most adult women do not need to ask permission for the things we need to. It's not bad or wrong, and it works for us, but it's quite humbling, at best. Sara
Maybe it's about her not wanting to admit failure. She wants to meet your deadlines and she is loath to admit it when she can't, so she waits to renegotiate hoping, by some miracle, she will still be able to complete the task in the time allowed (hope springs eternal). Then when it is clear that there is absolutely no way that she is going to make it, she calls you, but by then it is impossible to avoid the spanking.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's embarrassing to say, "I wanted to please you and get the task done by your deadline and I failed to do it and so I failed to please you."
To your response I was going to say that it's "just different" with one's husband than at work etc. Then I kept reading. Sara is right on!
ReplyDeleteI can't add anything that hasn't already been written from the above comments except I find it extremely difficult to do too. And I can FEEL Mitch's quiet amusement sometimes.
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Sara,Susie, and Dee, so saying it is much harder than feeling it in the backside. Saying it is more embarrassing. I believe all of you and Lynda, but it really seems more mature to talk it over before we reach penalty time. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I really appreciate all of you who have taken the time to verbalize this issue.
Mick, while I understand what you're saying, logically speaking, when emotions are involved logic doesn't necessarily make a bit of difference. I will tell my husband sometimes that I know I probably shouldn't feel the way I do, but that it doesn't matter how I should feel, but how I actually do feel. I'm sure you well know that we women can be complicated creatures and we know that you men don't always understand us. Well, we don't always understand you guys either. We're built differently, we think differently and we feel differently. If we can accept that fact and find ways to work around those differences and work together then we don't necessarily need to understand. Do you know what I'm saying?
ReplyDeleteGrace, yes, I understand that sometimes it is right to simply accept another person feelings. However, if talking about it can make the situation easier and help my wife to feel better in general, I think it bears talking about. At some point we have to talk about what we need to do rather than simply how we feel.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely. ;)
ReplyDeleteI completely understand the reluctance, because when we ask, it feels almost like begging..at least to me. Can't speak for Lynda, but for me it stings my pride (and yes I know you'll run with the "sting" reference!) to "beg" for more time. Also my husband will use that opportunity to point out why I should have already completed it, how I could have been done by now if I'd done x, y, or z..and he might also tell me how HE would have approached the task.
ReplyDeleteNo it's not worth the spanking but it's rather a complicated progression of thought. "I don't want to call and ask. Maybe I can get it done! Maybe he won't ask? Maybe I'll get enough done to not get spanked..oh DAMN..I didn't get finished!!"
Anyway, it makes sense to me in my world. :)
Also, when you ask "and how do you feel now?" that can't be very soothing. Must you scorch both the backside AND the feelings? JK.
Furthermore, I guess it's our job to provide amusement but boy it can drive me crazy when I see him amused. The other day I directly disobeyed and got the spanking connected to it. The next day he said "So how'd that work for you? You wanna try that again?" That big smirky smile was added punishment let me tell ya.
ReplyDeleteStormy, okay, I'll leave the "stinging" reference alone--it's too easy anyway. I think you describe very well what Lynda is thinking. And okay, point made about the added punishment of showing my amusement.
ReplyDeleteBut I still think it's funny.
cynet, somehow, your comment only just now showed up. You offer a perspective I hadn't considered I appreciate it and will give it some thought.
ReplyDeleteI will agree with the others about how difficult it is. I recently had to ask H for permission for something. This was similar to what you talk about here, but it wasn't more time, it was more money.
ReplyDeleteI did indeed have to swallow some pride to ask. I knew it was the right thing to do, and that it wouldn't go well for either of us if I didn't ask. So I did. I mentioned this afterward to a friend how it struck me, but that H's reaction had been so right. (It took some mental processing that I was expecting from myself) He was pleased that I had asked first, and felt very respected. He accepted and allowed the added expenditure. It was a positive outcome. I know that it will be a little easier the next time, as all things are with practice. He may even say no at times, but I think it was a positive interaction with us.
I'm just wondering if you could *set up* some practice for Lynda, knowing that you will give positive reactions following, just to help her over this hurdle. I know it may seem forced, but it will be easier after that. It was for me.
The "asking permission" thing is mildly humiliating. So is being spanked. Between definite humiliation right now (asking) and maybe later (if he notices, remembers, and I can't talk my way out...) - I'll take maybe later nearly every time.
ReplyDeleteI would just get on and do it first thing, then have the rest of the day to dawdle...lol xxxxxx
ReplyDeleteElysia, it sounds good to me, but I think we'd have the same problem of Lynda feeling awkward was we practice. It might work, though.
ReplyDeleteVanessa, well, we all make our own choices.
Daisychain, I'm with you, but each has their own style. Lynda's just happens to have a style to gets her spanked pretty often. Okay by me.
Not sure if I have commented on your blog before. I just wanted to say I enjoy reading it, especially since it is so rare to see an HoH's perspective. The only thing I could ask for is that you post more frequently! hahaha
ReplyDeleteAs Master tells me, I dont always have to understand, just accept. I never really understood what he meant by that. I"m the type to always want to understand. But there are things that just cant be understood, and you just have to go with it.
ReplyDeleteI understand what you are saying.. you would think being spanked would make you feel "sillier" than calling your spouse Sir or Master. Especially if you didnt start out D/s. Master gives me assignments, he will make changes, but I dont question why he wants me to do them. Just that he does. and I let him know right away if something is wrong and it is his decision if i can change it or not.
Welcome back Mick! I have not been able to check lately and I am so pleased to see your post! Yes, sometimes I feel silly too- I think it comes with the territory. At the same time, I think it is very sweet that your wife is still a bit shy and timid of you- she must have a tender gentle heart I presume. ; ) Hope you and Linda are having a wonderful start to your year.. It's my birthday today!! I always feel happy and free to do what I find pleasurable on this day. Usually repaint or decorate something! Take Care, your Cyber friend, Kristin ; )
ReplyDeleteP.S. Mick- just a thought... Perhaps she is too very shy and demure to ever be able to tell you how this new way (relatively new) gives her a sense of security and love that she was not able to feel. Could it be also why she struggles so with this, afraid to admit even to herself that this fulfills a deep abiding need that she did not even know she had but you recognized? Perhaps it would help preserve her dignity to know that she is not alone and women- no matter how old they become- never outgrow their need for someone to love them in such a authentic way? She seems very much to me to be the Queen, imprisoned up in the tower of her emotions- controlled by them, and you the King who has come with the army to rescue her and give her back her freedom and dignity? Anyway, that is the impression that I get very much from your posts. Lynda seems very much the "Lady," very dignified... Take Care again, Kristin
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